Saturday, June 20, 2009

The Folly of Humanism

Pslm. 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Despite all their pretense of scientific intellectualism, those who deny the existence of a personal Creator God are, in God's judgment, nothing but fools. Psalm 14, Psalm 53, Romans 3, etc. all describe the inner character of all such people - whether they call themselves atheists or humanists or pantheists or whatever. This repeated emphasis indicates how strongly God feels about those who dare to question His reality. It is bad enough to disobey His commandments and to spurn His love; it is utter folly to deny that He even exists!!!

The Bible describes the awful descent from true creationism into evolutionary pantheistic humanism.

Romans 1:18-32 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Certain atheists/humanists claim to be moral people, though their criteria of morality are often quite different from those of the Bible. No matter how admirable their humane acts of "righteousness" may seem, however, they are guilty of the sin of unbelief, the greatest sin of all.

Heb. 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

With all the innumerable evidences of God's reality as seen in the creation and throughout history, and then especially in the Person and work of Jesus Christ, it is utter foolishness to plunge blindly into eternity to meet the God whom they deny.

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Blogger lal said...

Creationism is a nice myth - a myth that many cultures have, but are you seriously telling me that you don't believe in evolution? How do you discount scientific proof? I'm really curious. BUT, if you do choose to answer, I'd really like an answer besides the bible/jesus/"god" says so. What is your tangible proof that the world/universe was created according to the bible?

7:26 PM  
Blogger Jim said...


Thanks for stopping by... the scientific evidence that I have seen clearly defines micro-evolution... variation and adaptability within the same kind; however, I fail to understand why there is not a vast amount of scientific evidence available after all these "billions and billions" of years available to show us such of macro-evolution; change from one kind into another separate kind. Look at all the kinds we have here on earth... but where is the evidence of the "missing link" that occurs whereby one kind is no longer the same kind, but a different kind???

Therefore, to simply answer your question; yes I believe in evolution within the same kind.... but no, I do not believe in evolution such as man evolving from the animal kingdom.

I confused about your next set of questions, and I'm sorry you felt that I would choose not to answer your comment; you're welcome to stop by anytime... you came on your own free will to my blog... I did not force you.

You want an answer besides that from the Bible/Jesus/God, but then turn around and ask for tangible proof from the Bible????? Does this mean you discount the Bible totally??? Have you ever read God's Word yourself, or are you simply relying on what someone else has told you what the Bible says???

There is a creator behind everything you have in your home, in what you eat, in what you wear, in what you drive, in what you communicate with me via the Internet..... There is order, and there is a definite design, not disorder or chaos or simply chance in everything around you. Therefore, why would you discount the idea that there is no Creator when it comes to mankind and the universe??? Possibly because if there is One who made you, maybe He desires you to listen to His Words and apply them to your own life, instead of just doing your own thing?????

I'm sorry I know little about your background since you choose to remain anonymous... but it would help in determining if you are sincerely interested in a civil dialogue about this area.... or simply having some fun with one of those Bible NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks again for stopping by.... and if your male and have children, I hope you have a Happy Father's Day!!!!!

8:25 PM  
Blogger lal said...

First, yes I have read the bible. I went to an anglican school and we were forced via religious "knowledge" to read and memorize the king james version. do i believe it? not one bit. (and now you know my bias. which is only fair, since I know yours). but i don't think that precludes having a civil dialogue... do you?

don't you think fossils demonstrate evidence of billions of years of earthly existence? now,i don't mean to be facetious, but what about dinosaurs? do you seriously believe that they roamed the earth along with humans? if so, where is the evidence of that? what about the fact that the modern day bird evolved from dinosaurs? that seems like macro evolution to me.

and is it really that far of a leap to ask religious people to prove something without saying oh well god said ____ so it must be true. I mean, seriously, where is the TANGIBLE proof?

10:25 PM  
Blogger Jim said...


Thanks for providing a little glimpse of your background... I'm glad during your schooling that they also forced you to learn English, math, history, and science.... I hope you don't feel the same way toward those useful subjects....

By the way, I am not a big fan of religion either.... religion is man-made; we need to focus on God and what He said in His Written Word. Man has a tendency to corrupt God's Word in setting up religions.... but God's Word stands alone and is truthful in every aspect.... including science in the areas that it is mentioned.

Dinosaur is a relatively new English word (I believe coined in the 1840's)... possibly you may have run into many stories, legends, depictures in art and drawings, of dragons and sea monsters during your time of learning.... were these simply fairy tales created by many different cultures, or actual occurances of man vs. beast??? I believe a dragon and dinosaur would be pretty similar.... a good possibility, don't you think???

Dinosaur mania is a relatively new fad in our culture, especially during the last 20-30 years ago; why do we think we know more about them so many years removed now according to our scientific friends, yet our fore-fathers even just several hundred years ago cared little about this subject, let alone the theory the evolution??? Wait.... I already know the answer to that one.... we are evolving to a much brighter and educated mankind; clearly evident when we see the increase in sinful behavoir and lack of belief in a God who is the Creator of all... man has no need for God and can take care of his life quite well on his own...

I remember reading something a week or two ago in the news headlines... let me check... here is a link...

I have no idea about the validity of their study... but I do know several scientific studies are found to be not true after further scientific study; besides, again, is that the only evidence of macro-evolution that you have that makes you believe in the total concept of evolution for mankind and the world??? Don't you think there would be a vast amount of "facts" available if this was true??? Where are the fossils of these transition forms of kinds???

Fossils do not necessary take billions of years to form... surely you have looked at some of the scientific studies surrounding Mt. St. Helen in Washington state... it didn't take billions of years to create some geological events after that episode...

Finally, I see you ignored the topic of creator, design, order in everything surrounding you today...

If I provided all the necessary parts to manufacture a car, along with the proper tools for assembly, and an environment for the construction to take place, but no men (creators), and then we observed it for let's say, 10 years, 20 years, 100 years, a thousand years, a million years.... you think our future ancestors will someday find a completely assembled car if everything was left alone to take place?????

A simple yes or no answer will do...

Thanks again for stopping by... I'll be gone all day tomorrow, so please don't think that I am avoiding you.....

And back to the original post... I did not call you a fool... God did in His Word. I have no argument with you..... but I wish you would sincerely review the post again along with the portion of God's Word which was referenced... God can speak to you if you give Him a chance!!!

12:18 AM  
Anonymous lal said...

I never felt forced to learn tangible and non fictional subjects.

just to be clear, you don't believe that dinosaurs existed? what of their fossils?

i'll have to check out the validity of that article before i can comment.

your example is ridiculous at best. simply put, evolution occurs via genetic mutation. the last time i checked, the parts of a car weren't alive, and thus, don't have genetic matter.

considering "god" is a fictitious character, you made me chuckle.

11:16 AM  
Anonymous lal said...

PS: It would be *really* nice if you could keep the religious evangelism to a minimum... or better yet, how about *none*. you don't see me trying to convert you over to the darkside, so it'd be nice if you could extend the same courtesy to me.

11:38 AM  
Blogger Jim said...


I apologize for my lack of clarity in my response... of course I believe in "dinosaurs"... you asked me if I believed they existed with man, which I answered to you a very affirmative YES... numorous stories about man and dragons throughout many cultures... I believe a dragon and a dinosaur (again a reletively new word in the history of mankind) would be very equivalent to each other, would it not?????

I'll let you describe the original genetic material (where did it come from?) steps and sequencing that led to and ordered universe and planet earth along with mankind, animals, plants, rocks and minerals (I had to throw that in since I am a mining engineer by trade, specializing in mineral processing), along with the various temps, pressures, chemical reactions, etc. that took place to accomplish everything we can see today...... and then we'll compare your example vs. mine to see which is more foolish. With my example, nothing is going to happen without a Creator.... that was the point, no longer how long you had all the material and tools available to make that car! I'm interested in hearing a little about your evolutionary story!!!!!

Chuckle while you can... He gave you the power to laugh at Him; enjoy the air He gives you also along with each beat of that heart of yours which you think nothing about all the day long..... you are not the first or the last that laughs at God. You'll answer for your own actions in life some day, just as I will also....

10:57 AM  
Blogger Jim said...


You were aware of the "religious evangelism" when you entered my blog without "force" to voice your opinion.... and as a guest, I find yourself very demanding make all the rules of our conversation, such as no "converting" and no Bible??? Did they teach you any manners in that Anglican school???

Apparently that is what struck a chord with you in the first place...

I only share His Word.... He does the convicting...

11:05 AM  
Anonymous lal said...

hey you're the one with comment moderation on - you can choose to answer or not answer any post that comes your way. and hence, i can make any demand i want.

and nope, i wasn't taught any proper manners at my anglican school. you know how they only preach those colonialist manners, the ones that have screwed up the world. no point in perpetuating all that is wrong with this world by following them, is there? ;)

12:04 PM  
Blogger Jim said...


And I've done my best to answer every question you have expressed to me..... plus have posted every comment that you have sent my way.


I can assure you "comment moderation" was not enabled to avoid sincere questions or comments from my welcome guests... but for other very obvious reasons... you know, those drive-by anonymous commenters who speak a much different language (you know, those with limited vocabulary and reasoning skills who have to repeat the same four letter words every other word)and also post various website links which are very off-topic...

Now, isn't that a shame in this "modern, civilized" world where mankind continues to evolve into a much more intelligent being???!!!

6:24 PM  

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